PS4 | Tom Clancy's The Division 2

[Tallpaul77]

I agree they can’t have a traditional story just shoehorned in, but that definitely doesn’t mean they can’t have a great story.

If we go back to Destiny 1 for an example, how does actually finding out who the Stranger is prevent or impede the persistent world gameplay? The writers were taking the piss in that game.

In the Division 1, the story could (and should) have involved you hunting down and killing

the rogue division agent.

With that as the end of the fixed story, that doesn’t change the state of NY in any way, or the need for your services as a Division agent in the persistent world. But you still get a proper story, and closure.

The fact that these developers haven’t taken that approach is something I find really annoying, and why I didn’t buy Destiny 2 and won’t be buying The Division 2.

And a good story can absolutely enhance the gameplay in my opinion. So can something like good music. The way you add consequences, motivation, atmosphere, context, emotion... those are all things that can enhance gameplay, and that a good story can provide.


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I agree that agood story can enhance gameplay but if you have shit gameplay would you even hear the story? Ideally the devs can create a perfect storm and get both right.

[Locoevo]

Its really the only thing going for it and why I still play.

Ill agree D2 has improved but I still find its story is a bit weak. Osiris and warmind were pretty meh. We killed Xol - a worm god in a story mission, that really bugged me, i felt he should have been a raid.

Forsaken was a great dlc, we got new zones with plenty of secrets to explore and find with a great raid.

Black armoury feels like its a step backwards towards Osiris and Warmind. It has me a bit confused as to where its all come from (no I havent read any lore yet) and I can't actually recall what I did to unlock it all, most likely because I went back to the EDZ and Nessus for the umpteenth time playing rehashed content/zones in what is my opinion a weak attempt to prolong the games life with 'dlc' that doesnt really give us much.



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Yeaaaaah about Xol.... Toland would tell you otherwise, actually in game as well... this is like I mentioned earlier about it being kind of hard to fit all of Destiny’s story into these quarterly instalments, we “kill” Xol in Warmind but Toland asks us if we think we killed a worm god during Forsaken.

I think that’s part of an issue with a shooter like Destiny and story, it’s so focused on shooting that any kind of story or lore gets lost cause the player is more keen to shoot shit than listen about what’s going on in game. Unless you actually pay attention to the story or the cutscenes or NPC dialog during missions then you’re gonna miss out most of it. The text lore in the game is building the world around you and giving you reference as to what your actions in game are doing and what’s been done in the past.


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[SpudRotor]

https://youtu.be/PKxfn0l4MbE

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[B_enjamin411]

https://youtu.be/PKxfn0l4MbE

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Marco creates good content. He had a few complaints but they sounded quite minor and would probably be tweaked.

[SpudRotor]

A lot of his complaints are pretty specific to him but he is upfront about that, ie the floaty feeling of running description. Movement was always going to be a little different as they rebuilt it to remove the chicken dance and stuff.

It looks amazing. Can't wait to try it.

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[SpudRotor]

Thinking of going and slapping down 5 bucks at JB to get access to the Beta this week. Anyone else jumping in

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[B_enjamin411]

That reminds me, yeah I still need to pre-order and will be in the Beta.

[SpudRotor]

So I think it's safe to say don't pre order the ultimate edition. The "extra" storage is not actually extra it's just early access storage. What a fucking joke. I can understand that they were getting crucified for pay to win storage, but shit I almost bought the ultimate for that reason.

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[B_enjamin411]

I'm going to have to watch this new MarcoStyle video again as it's pretty in-depth (RPG Mechanics Deep dive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h_0r0zNNiQ), but he reckons there will be an issue with the amount of storage.

He also says that character building is a big step up from D1 which is exciting, but also intimidating haha. The game otherwise is looking really good. I didn't mind the sponge so much but it looks increased to me, rather than reduced.

Would be pissed to pay for the extra storage to find it's only timed, but yeah it was ridiculous that they tried to sell it.

[SpudRotor]

Vid from Mtashed.

https://youtu.be/1Oz2SDIDN9E

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[SpudRotor]

I just got an email, selected for Beta. Haha yes. I don't even have to pre order.

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[B_enjamin411]

Singed up for beta months back...

Pre-ordered 7:49pm ... email with beta invite 8:32pm.

I never do this, but I bought the gold edition. Felt reasonable having over 600 hours on Division 1 and buying it for $12 or something. Can use the early access too

[repercuss]

Yeah I got beta access too, maybe most peeps who played a bunch of div1 got one.

Will check beta out.

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[SpudRotor]

Downloading now. Should be good tomorrow.

I should be able to share a key if anyone is keen.

Need to add you on Ubisoft friends first though

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[Locoevo]

Got a Beta key for this so I’ll give it a crack when is the actually Beta start?


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[SpudRotor]

8 pm tonight I believe.

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[Sir_eFFex]

Yeah I got one too... must feel sorry for us playing D1 LOL

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[SpudRotor]

Haha, probably. Maybe they invited anyone with a certain amount of game time to entice them back and get more sales.

Now to decide $69 physical or $99 digital. God Indian JB would sell codes as well

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[Tallpaul77]

Downloading now. Should be good tomorrow.

I should be able to share a key if anyone is keen.

Need to add you on Ubisoft friends first though

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I'm keen to try it - never played Div 1

[SpudRotor]

TP do you have a Ubisoft account linked to your PS4 account? If so or when you do. Let me know the ID I will shoot you an invite when I can.

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[Exokrin]

TP do you have a Ubisoft account linked to your PS4 account? If so or when you do. Let me know the ID I will shoot you an invite when I can.

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I've received the email for beta but it isn't allowing me to access the "invite your friends"
I've dug a little further through the site and it showing I'm not eligible. Is anyone else getting this?

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[lex_stone_76]

Hey guys got a code for PS4 which I won't have time to use hopefully it will work for someone if they want it.



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[Tallpaul77]

TP do you have a Ubisoft account linked to your PS4 account? If so or when you do. Let me know the ID I will shoot you an invite when I can.

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I do have a linked Ubisoft account, just went to check it but got my password wrong... Checked my emails and had a beta password sitting in junk mail so all good, I'll download tonight

[SpudRotor]

Haha. Sweet.

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[AStiffBreeze]

Got a Beta key for this so I’ll give it a crack when is the actually Beta start?


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The private Beta runs from Thursday 7/2/19 @ 8:00 PM AEDT until Monday 11/2/19 @ 8:00 PM AEDT.

So it starts in about six and a half hours.


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[Locoevo]

The private Beta runs from Thursday 7/2/19 @ 8:00 PM AEDT until Monday 11/2/19 @ 8:00 PM AEDT.

So it starts in about six and a half hours.


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I’d like to see how the servers hold up tonight then, they weren’t great in Div 1 from memory.


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[AStiffBreeze]

I’d like to see how the servers hold up tonight then, they weren’t great in Div 1 from memory.


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I think that’s probably why they picked that start time. It’s prime time for us, but for the rest of the world that’s a terribly inconvenient time


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[Locoevo]

I think that’s probably why they picked that start time. It’s prime time for us, but for the rest of the world that’s a terribly inconvenient time


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They really underestimate gamers then lol

[Exokrin]

Wow, I was refreshing the load page and it opened smack on 8pm

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[howitzur]

Cant say Im as hyped for this as I am for Anthem, but will probably be picking this up to at some point shortly after release - if all goes well.

I missed the launch for Div 1 and was pretty much behind the 8 ball for it entirely, as a result of that I just never could get into it as I could never get a decent group to do the harder endgame content.

But my biggest problem with Div 1 was it just felt every week or month pvp meta's had too much impact on the pve content. Something always seemed to be getting nerfed or buffed and that change flowed through to builds you might have been grinding to get. Nothing more infuriating than spending any length of time grinding in a game to have it become irrelevant overnight. Hopefully Div 2 doesnt follow the same path.



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